I'm No Cardiologist

Read this post first.
There is no way to sugar coat it. No manner to make it more palatable, more acceptable. I broke our engagement and Tali's heart. It will never feel right even if I justify logically the need to separate. Since it is so fresh, so raw, I expect her friends to defend her vehemently and pour forth their righteous indignation. And they have. I deserve it; I accept their rebuke.
So how does one delicately tell the person he loves and wishes to spend every waking moment with, that there is no way to make it work. Compound it with a commitment of engagement with a ring and watch exchanged. Her friends deplore the fact that I just, out of the blue, amputated her from my life. Is there an easier way? Should we have had long tearful, gut wrenching discussions for weeks on end, only for me to come to the same realization, that I can't make this merger work. I know she tried her best and was succeeding (as far as I know). I gave it my all and I failed. The past many months have had the specifics addressed and all the techniques that we could think of were put out forth. There was only one major discussion on the matter a few months ago and more specific minor discussions as to how to handle the problem as each incident arouse.
I guess she and her friends are mortified by the fact that she was unaware of my feelings. I should never have proposed if I had made peace with the issue. (I thought I had). The reality is that I was trying to make those feelings disappear and if they vanished from my mind, everything would be OK. But once I started realizing that it can't be ignored, it was already too late and the merger untenable.
I even seriously considered marrying her and living in separate homes but she wouldn't hear of it. Yeah and it is kinda weird. I saw a psychologist to give me insights into child behavior. I read books about transforming the difficult child and family dynamics. I tried having the kids interact often and in the end I just felt like I was losing my mind from them as is clear from the previous post.
So, again I ask you how do you end it? I told her simply the facts, that I tried, I thought I could do it but I can't. I love her dearly but it's not going to work. Was I supposed to put my arms around her while I dropped the bomb? Was I supposed to start acting distant, then pick or look for fights, then escalate over time so that when it finally comes she would say, "Good riddance he's an ass for the way he treats me."?
So how does one delicately tell the person he loves and wishes to spend every waking moment with, that there is no way to make it work. Compound it with a commitment of engagement with a ring and watch exchanged. Her friends deplore the fact that I just, out of the blue, amputated her from my life. Is there an easier way? Should we have had long tearful, gut wrenching discussions for weeks on end, only for me to come to the same realization, that I can't make this merger work. I know she tried her best and was succeeding (as far as I know). I gave it my all and I failed. The past many months have had the specifics addressed and all the techniques that we could think of were put out forth. There was only one major discussion on the matter a few months ago and more specific minor discussions as to how to handle the problem as each incident arouse.
I guess she and her friends are mortified by the fact that she was unaware of my feelings. I should never have proposed if I had made peace with the issue. (I thought I had). The reality is that I was trying to make those feelings disappear and if they vanished from my mind, everything would be OK. But once I started realizing that it can't be ignored, it was already too late and the merger untenable.
I even seriously considered marrying her and living in separate homes but she wouldn't hear of it. Yeah and it is kinda weird. I saw a psychologist to give me insights into child behavior. I read books about transforming the difficult child and family dynamics. I tried having the kids interact often and in the end I just felt like I was losing my mind from them as is clear from the previous post.
So, again I ask you how do you end it? I told her simply the facts, that I tried, I thought I could do it but I can't. I love her dearly but it's not going to work. Was I supposed to put my arms around her while I dropped the bomb? Was I supposed to start acting distant, then pick or look for fights, then escalate over time so that when it finally comes she would say, "Good riddance he's an ass for the way he treats me."?
Believe me if I felt there was any more answers to make this work, I would jump on it in a second. But there isn't. She told me in August, "If it's right, you make it work." She told me to speak to the psychologist, to read the books. Living separately was not an option nor was waiting many years to see if the kids grow out of their behavioral issues. I thought I was OK but I wasn't. I thought the kids were getting more manageable but they weren't. Love blinded me and I wanted to be blind just to have Tali. But my insides were torn apart by my inability to find resolution. From all our discussions over the past few months, there was nothing new to add, only perhaps guilt that plans were made, that we were going to town hall in a week to let the government once again interfere with our lives. There was very little time left and I know ultimately my decision was right for me and my family, horrible for Tali, and maybe not so bad for her children.
So, I am curious to hear how you would have ended it; what marvelous techniques I failed to employ? It had to be done and there was no way to make it hurt less. I AM SORRY for all of us but most of all, for Tali.
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Labels: commitment, conflict, engagement, marriage, perspective, psychology, relationships, Tali

16 Comments:
You have my sympathy for going through an enormously difficult thing. Just remember that just because people are hurt as a result of something you did doesn't mean that what you did was wrong.
are there therapists who deal with these types of situations? Family therapists or something. I don't know, possibly you could have brought your kids into therapy with you. Is it normal for kids to act up in this situation? Maybe they were trying to sabotage the relationship for some reason, subconsciously. Just some thoughts from an uninformed reader
Hello Halo,
I sought a therapist's advice and beyond that, the particulars cannot be aired in public but for an average case you ideas are worthwhile.
JA,
I know but I really try very hard in my life not to hurt people so it hurts my soul to have to do so. Yes, even though it is correct.
My heart goes out to you- it must have been the most difficult decision for you to make. I admire your strength for being able to make a clean break. Not to make light of it, but the band-aid analogy is a good one. You can take a band-aid off slowly, so that the pain hurts less but lasts longer or you can rip the band-aid off quickly with a lot of pain but then it's done. If you would have tried to be a jerk to her so eventually she would broken up with you, you would have just put her (and yourself) through a whole lot of unnecessary torture. There was no easy way out for you to take, but ultimately you did what was best for your family and you should take some comfort in that.
from what you describe you were very honest with tali. it is far better to be straightforward than to make her break up with you in a backhanded way. it took alot of courage on your part. of course she is hurt, but it doesnt mean you were a creep to break it off.
Sad story, lots of courage and heartbreak.
Putting your kids lives, or happiness, in front of yours is probably a mistake. Some kids grow up with all kinds of shit, and some succeed and some fail; hard to tell. Other kids have seemingly perfect childhoods, and piss it all away as adults.
And more to the point, finding love in this world is not so easy.
Reality is, no one really knows how things will develop and change in the longer term, within the new family unit, for better or worse. There are so many variables, its impossible to predict.
So, given the centrality of divorce in your life, I think you panicked, which is justified, and even expected.
So I will be the first to humbly suggest, reconsidering your move.
Above Anon, I'm betting you don't have kids. Besides, I'm betting that the kids' happiness was not the sole issue, but their well-being as well. It's moot, because the ship has probably sailed.
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I've got a simiar dillemma myself. But in my case it's a marriage. (No kids tho.) I don't know how to break her heart. She's still a part of me. Like cutting off my own arm but it'll only end in disaster if I don't end it.
NICE JEWISH GUY
Sorry for not giving a name, regarding my response to Smoo, to reconsider.
We have kids (4) but not in a second marriage/divorce situation, so i am out on a limb on the divorce dynamics (TG).
My point is that kids are challenging for all parents, and not just divorce/second marriage. A few of our kids are in teens and believe me there are issues. But I dont consider leaving my wife because the kids are not getting along. And you know one day, they will all leave home, and reality is teens spend most of their time out anyway.
I just dont think that kids are an important enough factor not to marry the one you love. Carpe diem and all that shit
The ship has not sailed, even seen divorced people sometimes remarry each other! I would not call a panic attack, grounds for writing off the relationship. Especially if it has little to do with the relationship between them on a 1to1 level, but due to circumstances, which are dynamic and always changing.
I fully appreciate the fact that kids will often fight and not get along. I see it with my own children but there seems to be something more here; more than I feel at liberty to divulge. I AM NOT HAPPY when our children are together unless they are asleep or in separate areas not interacting. The kids are also unhappy. How is this not a recipe for disaster?
I guess you have faith that whatever problems your own children have, within the context of what is clearly a single unit family, will be resolvable and manageable. When there are two families, there is loyalty to kin first. Conflict reinforces the division. I don't believe that the issues will go away. They will always be there escalating the tension, never allowing for a peaceful life.
http://cleanupinaisleseven.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-am-angry-nasty-bitch.html
I have been commenting over at the above link (hope it works). And it got me thinking. So I will cross post the following comment:
Hmmm, your comment about fighting passionately then making up, made me think. There are those like you who operate successfully in that mode but I abhor conflict and would take extreme measure to avoid conflict or try to diffuse the tension. I withdraw! Maybe that's what's upsetting Tali's friends. I kept things to myself to avoid starting a fight or creating a problem but in the end I left Tali out of an important process. Perhaps she deserved to hear how I was feeling (even though I was trying to diffuse my inner voice) instead of shocking her with my conclusion. Thanks for making me think. I guess I have to work on my next exit stategy
Glad I could give you some insight and I agree. It seems that because you were so afraid of conflict you DID leave her somewhat in the dark and kind of blindsided her with your decision. I understand the desire to avoid conflict at all costs, but when you withdraw its almost like a passive aggressive behavior and thats why it left Tali (and her friends) with so many unanswered questions.
Let me get this straight. You go out with the woman, she has kids. You get to know the kids, and you see problems early on.
You say you want to wait a year (or more) to get engaged, yet, knowing he problems with the kid integration, you propose anyway, and not even after a year.
Then, without warning, without trying to deal with her on your fears, without co-parenting help from therapists together, without any discussion, you break the engagement, break this womans heart (probably her kids too) totally unilaterally?
And then you come onto your blog and complain about YOUR broken heart?
What about this isn't narcissistic?
How can you say you did everything you could, when you didn't talk to her, didn't try and protect the love of your life by going to specialists in this area?
Did you handle the situation in a way you would have appreciated it handled if the woman were holding that power?
How are you going to trust that you're ready to go back on frumster when you don't have a handle on what made you get engaged knowing the problems, made you break the engagement knowing it was unilateral, and so very damaging without going every inch you could to make sure it would work?
Would you like your daughter treated this way?
I think I will post an entire post in response to Anon.
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